Physicist Helen Czerski illuminates how all of the ocean, from the equator to the poles, is a single engine powered by sunlight – a blue machine – and recalibrates our view of this defining feature of our planet. 

After more than twenty years of exploring the seas, marine biologist Helen Scales found herself struggling to answer the question are you hopeful for the future of the ocean? With growing public interest in the natural world combined with the rising tide of eco-anxiety, Scales is not alone in wrestling with feelings of anger and loss but also joy and wonder in the living ocean.  

In an age of climate emergency, join these two thinkers in considering how we might build a more just, thriving future for the ocean.  

In conversation with Megan Kenyon, Policy Correspondent (Sustainability), New Statesman