A compelling conversation between leading human rights journalist Zahra Joya, now living in exile in London after being airlifted out of Kabul in 2021, and journalist Karen Bartlett who recently won the Orwell Prize 2026 for political writing with The Escape from Kabul. They are joined in conversation by Sir Laurie Bristow, former British Ambassador during the fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban in August 2021 and the UK's subsequent evacuation of over 15,000 people from Kabul airport.  

Chaired by Sir Laurie Bristow.